古装 电影 考究 哪些古装的电视剧和电影对各自朝代服饰道具最为考究?
而且未央宫里面,只有皇帝能穿鞋在房子里面走,和他一起的卫青,霍去病都是穿的袜子。。。太细节了,这种礼仪都有涉及。
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百度汉武大帝贴吧上看到的帖子,转自天涯娱乐上分析汉武大帝道具的技术贴 搬过来了 原帖的名字叫《惊天技术帝,烧钱宝典,告诉你拍电视剧应该如何低调的华丽的烧钱》 作者叫:穿上马甲也是公马。
怎样才能低调的烧钱的拍一部电视剧,请看烧钱指南。
我们的目标是——不求最便宜,但求最靠谱。
神马何家村的鎏金银香球,你最多让它冒个一秒的烟。
神马茂陵鎏金竹节银香炉,整上一捆做背景。
什么?南越王的漆卮?你让男五号不随手拿着一个都不好意思。
你说豆型灯和人型灯,嘿,不摆上一车,镜头都不好意思往上招呼,哦,其实摆了一车,也没给特写。
这就是低调的烧钱,我们的心态是——不为烧钱,就为气氛。
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我只是第N号男配手里的杯子
导演说就是炮灰喝水也要靠谱导演说就是炮灰喝水也要靠谱
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如果不是作者分之一的毒眼——你永远不会注意到这个破球
好吧,刚才恶搞下,那个不是破球= =导演说要烧钱就烧俩好吧,刚才恶搞下,那个不是破球= =导演说要烧钱就烧俩
看差了(截图的大神掀桌!!你神马眼神)来揭开神秘的面纱看差了(截图的大神掀桌!!你神马眼神)来揭开神秘的面纱
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剧务说导演,再追求真实,拍草原大战都没钱了,咱能不能整个铜的
茂陵竹节熏炉 银的,上面鎏金 道具组的人心在滴血茂陵竹节熏炉 银的,上面鎏金 道具组的人心在滴血
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国宝级的东西(同志们 注意汉武帝背后的影子!对就是那个影子!)
摄影连个正面都不给,和道具有仇啊= =摄影连个正面都不给,和道具有仇啊= =
刚才突然大神小宇宙爆发,截到了正面刚才突然大神小宇宙爆发,截到了正面
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为了烧钱,一个人说话背后必定要放个国宝级的香炉,排不上国宝的,只能大批量的出现在廷议的角落里
人类已经不能阻止这个道具师了人类已经不能阻止这个道具师了
西汉 博山炉
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导演连整个都没给我,都找疯了
最后还是要去找马王堆最后还是要去找马王堆
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这个角度很刁钻
汉壁画里的坐具汉壁画里的坐具
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你只是个郡守,却是如此高调的郡守(那杯子,那托盘,那博山炉)
这么大只仿品也很贵吧这么大只仿品也很贵吧
(对不起啊 楼主看错了 那个高调的郡守旁边的是这个)(对不起啊 楼主看错了 那个高调的郡守旁边的是这个)
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灯灯灯灯都是灯
灯灯灯灯是豆型灯灯灯灯灯是豆型灯
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这个截的很强大
实物出土于马王堆实物出土于马王堆
2014/1/1 惭愧,摆了半年没动静的半截回答,突然翻年这一天那么多人看到。如评论里所说,确实细看仿品和国宝是有差别的,但是我觉得一个剧组能做到现在的样子,已经很不错了。毕竟胡玫在拍霍去病草原大战的那一段都要没钱了,所以吐槽里面盔甲不对的也体谅一下剧组吧,自己脑补西汉早期军队应该怎么样,看起来有点日本的内里着装,盔甲,没有马镫、马鞍也只是块布的长途奔袭,知网搜得到论文的,学生党还可以用移动图书馆请他们把论文发你邮箱。
等下周空了我在把后半截补全了和大家分享。
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翻年来更新:
我诧异了,我目瞪口呆了(同志们别注意桌上那个金灿灿的东西了,别忽略了前面两个)
道具说幸亏还有马王堆啊道具说幸亏还有马王堆啊
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喂,不过是吃个饭而已,你们不要那么专业好不好,让别的剧组肿么活
根正苗红的博物馆复原场景根正苗红的博物馆复原场景
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道具师表示耳杯已经是浮云了,老子拧灯台手都快碎了
道具师:我要感谢辛追全家道具师:我要感谢辛追全家
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烧钱的奥义就在于——不光是摆设,你就是梳个头,也得考据
掀桌,你不能在梳子方面都死磕啊道具!掀桌,你不能在梳子方面都死磕啊道具!
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考据狂的证明就是——即使是表现金子——也要花汉代款式的黄金(同志们别光注意那珠子了,看看旁边的黄金哦 它才是主角)
金子 金子
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另一个风格的竹节熏炉
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虎符
秦虎符秦虎符
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汉代 多枝灯
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湖南博物馆 汉代酒杓
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汉代 兵器架
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导演:龙套甲戴这个!
道具师:……
道具师(泪流满面):导演……虽然看着是地摊货,但是……那是因为材料费不足!!!!辛追老夫人!不关我的事!晚上别来找我算帐啊!导演最大,你去找她!!!!道具师(泪流满面):导演……虽然看着是地摊货,但是……那是因为材料费不足!!!!辛追老夫人!不关我的事!晚上别来找我算帐啊!导演最大,你去找她!!!!
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太皇太后:给我用的必须靠谱!我的拐杖是常备的,不靠谱杀无赦!!!
道具师(谄媚):陛下,长乐宫没有杖出土,咱用边疆的先将就将就~~?道具师(谄媚):陛下,长乐宫没有杖出土,咱用边疆的先将就将就~~?
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导演:灯!灯!灯!!!不要给我翻来覆去就两盏灯!
道具师:原型不够……导演,咱用战国的行不?
导演:……也行……别整成雍正王朝的道具就成~~~~
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楼主表示,用西汉以前的东西,咱也可以理解,但是,能不能请道具师跟摄影、场务什么的搞好关系呢?
虽然是仿品,但是,国宝级的东西得有国宝级的待遇吧!
当背景就算了!当背景的背景!!!!
楼主表示,高清图象配上钛合金眼……那就等于在召唤上万匹的神马!!!!!有人发现了么?
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在整理此贴时,每当楼主感觉得自己的心已经被那一群狂奔而过的、以万为单位级别的~~~神奇的马~~践踏得不能再践踏时,此剧总能再用一两个不经意的镜头将楼主重新带入新数量级的神马群中,目睹着自己的心被那些狂奔的神马的再次践踏得更加……破碎……凌乱……
比如下面这一系列的镜头……
就在楼主震惊于竹节博山炉变身为竹节博山灯时,镜头一转——就在楼主震惊于竹节博山炉变身为竹节博山灯时,镜头一转——
馆陶身后那个澄黄澄黄的是什么!!!馆陶身后那个澄黄澄黄的是什么!!!
看那个方方的头,那个长长的弯!
不要以为调了一个方向,还是背面,我们就认不出!!!
那应该是仿了一对,这个正好与原型的方向相对的那一只。
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导演表示:即使是男N号的背景,也要不经意之间让人觉得似曾相识,物有出处!西汉之前,必须是西汉之前!
道具:好吧,那就三星堆吧,那也是西汉之前。。。三星堆出土青铜立人三星堆出土青铜立人
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既然男N配桌子上随便摆的都是四羊方尊,那么那些路人甲乙丙就人手一只边陲之地的东西好了。
南越王墓出土的玉角杯,由一整块玉石雕成。南越国的玉匠借题发挥,就着石头的形状施刀,综合运用玉雕的各种工艺方法,如线刻、浅浮雕、高浮雕、圆雕等,在器身上巧妙布局各层纹饰,再经过细致的打磨,二千年后玉角杯仍放射出温和恬润的光泽。它表明这一时期玉雕在章法布局、材料运用、技巧发挥上走向成熟。这件玉器,既是一件美轮美奂的工艺品,又是一件融传说于现实,引人遐思的实用品,堪称是中国汉玉中不可多得的稀世之宝。南越王墓出土的玉角杯,由一整块玉石雕成。南越国的玉匠借题发挥,就着石头的形状施刀,综合运用玉雕的各种工艺方法,如线刻、浅浮雕、高浮雕、圆雕等,在器身上巧妙布局各层纹饰,再经过细致的打磨,二千年后玉角杯仍放射出温和恬润的光泽。它表明这一时期玉雕在章法布局、材料运用、技巧发挥上走向成熟。这件玉器,既是一件美轮美奂的工艺品,又是一件融传说于现实,引人遐思的实用品,堪称是中国汉玉中不可多得的稀世之宝。
道具:导演,玉我们整不起。。。批量的话真用玉来弄。。5亿都不够啊。。。
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导演说,四羊方尊我拿来摆案边长信宫灯我拿来照背面三星堆的青铜立人我拿来当灯台,国宝级的我既然这么用,你这小小搏局也只能在被汉武大帝发飙掀翻的时候露一下脸了。
下面是马王堆出土的汉代搏局下面是马王堆出土的汉代搏局
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青铜高座杯----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
染炉
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(看到右边小角落里的那个了吗?
牛形釭灯
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环首刀
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瑟
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(长信宫灯我们又见面了 长信宫灯:还记得我吗?)
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盘子状的东东是承旋
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酒器
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彩绘漆豆
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注勺
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鸳鸯盒
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漆盾
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汉代玻璃杯(PS:汉代有玻璃制品)
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这年头,大件不稀罕!
——没见兵马俑都成室内摆设了吗?!
——还是成对!
这年头,啥最体现身价?
——细节!
所以,以下这张图,请看不懂的人放大了细看!!!!
反正我愣是看了五遍才终于看明白了!!!!
所以,啥叫低调地烧钱?!
啥叫含蓄?!
……
其实还有个词,最能形容笔者现在的心情——
——坑爹啊~~~~~~!!!!!
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雷台汉墓出土的骑兵俑
地图上的小道具地图上的小道具
这个道具大家应该都记得,不需要笔者再截更清晰的图,或者再多加说明了吧!
直接上原型图
雷台汉墓出土的骑兵俑雷台汉墓出土的骑兵俑
这个汉墓名称大家可能陌生,不过,这个汉墓出的另一件东西大家应该都听过——马踏飞燕!
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道具师:导演,为了你的草原大战,咱就不整石刻画了,用拓本上个色,整个帛画,成不?东汉画像石 周公辅成王东汉画像石 周公辅成王
据说,周公辅成王的画像石在东汉挺流行的,原因不言而喻啊~~~------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
导演》-《:你还能考虑省钱?!
道具师:天地良心啊!我都不考虑实物,自己拼接组合了!!!你还要我怎么样?!
剧中汉武帝和东方朔射覆时候用的杯子剧中汉武帝和东方朔射覆时候用的杯子
汝阴侯墓出土的壶的图样汝阴侯墓出土的壶的图样
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灌夫:君侯,我看你心事重重啊,好歹咱是来给丞相贺喜的,你既然拉我来了,就该高兴点嘛。再说,有肉吃,有酒喝……
窦婴:你知道啥,看见前面这个酒壶了没?
灌夫:看见了,咋了?
窦婴:道具师又拿着钱不当钱了……
灌夫:又穿越了?
窦婴:是啊,这是照商朝的那个亚鸟宁盉做的,据说导演说要做个轻便点的手上能提着的酒壶,他不知道从哪里就给拖出这个来了。
灌夫:那导演……
窦婴:所以等会你要表现的好点,争取这场戏一次过,我估摸那变态把我俩NG的钱都花完了!
灌夫:……
窦婴和灌夫用的酒壶
商亚鸟宁盉,商代晚期盛酒器,鋬内有铭文6字“亚鸟宁从父丁”。“亚”为官名;“鸟”、“宁”、“从”均为族徽;“父丁”指死去的父亲名“父丁”者。铭文记载有“亚”这个职官身份的“鸟”、“宁”、“从”三个族为其死去的父亲名“父丁”者做此盉。商亚鸟宁盉,商代晚期盛酒器,鋬内有铭文6字“亚鸟宁从父丁”。“亚”为官名;“鸟”、“宁”、“从”均为族徽;“父丁”指死去的父亲名“父丁”者。铭文记载有“亚”这个职官身份的“鸟”、“宁”、“从”三个族为其死去的父亲名“父丁”者做此盉。
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真心觉得作为一部电视剧,剧组真的挺负责了的了。业界良心啊!!!!
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赞美了那么多了,但里面有错误还是要贴出来的,感谢 提出的两篇:
第一弹:
第二弹:
还有啊,评论里吐槽的各位,欢迎像 一样给链接啊,不然我是不会整理了贴上来的哟~
BTW,不就一电视剧么,此贴纯属娱乐而已,看看道具组的态度也就行了。真要完全还原,道具组肯定不行啊,人家又不是考古学家。您要么自个儿翻论文去,要么穿越。在评论里一两句的吐槽我又不能传达给人家道具组,也不能改变已经拍好那么多年的电视剧。所以下面吐槽我就懒得回复了,要给大家交流讨论的,欢迎留言给链接,我空了就贴上来。
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